Aperture 3 & Mac OS X Lion
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I'm also curious to see if 32-bit helps anyone else.
I have a few issues with Lion performance, particularly memory heavy apps such as Aperture.
Used to run well, now after a short while open, it takes up a huge amount of memory, and mdworker process tends to fight with the Aperture one.
I'm on a pre-unibody MacBook Pro 2.4GHz running 6 GB RAM, though, so I'm a little bit better than those with 4GB, and I suppose my experience mirrors that - have more issues, but not unworkable ones.
I will keep the 32-bit mode in mind if it grows infuriating enough.
mr kgoo
@Stephane, some people have found running aperture under lion in 32bit mode seems to help fix that. Might be worth while giving that a bash.
I have 8gb of ram in my mac mini and have no problems at all with aperture running in 64bit, so I hope the ram upgrade will help run the application In full 64bit glory.
Chris Hoch
I need help I have a macbookpro (2009) 2.53 GHz core 2 Duo with 4 gb of ram and everytime I use Aperture it is so slowww . I love this software but I'm about to give up , I just ordered 8 GB of ram. I hope it's going to help me
Stephane Hardy
I installed 10.7.1 yesterday evening and it does not appear to have fixed the referenced files on a NAS problem with my library. This makes me sad.
Michael Mayer
10.7.1 has been released—let us know if it fixes any outstanding issues!
-Joseph @ApertureExpert
Joseph Linaschke
@Morten Scheel,
Thanks for the tip regarding 32 bit mode. I have plenty of memory in my MacBook Pro (8GB, it's the i7 model from mid-2010) and I'm not happy with the performance of Aperture 3 - I wasn't in Snow Leopard either, but Lion didn't seem to make it better/worse for me.
Now I'm going to give your 32 bit tip a go and see if it helps.
Obviously I've already forgotten how many page outs I had before I did this (it's 20 minutes ago, so no wonder...) but I think it was around 4GB pageouts. Now I'll run my Mac for today and do some Aperture 3 tonight and see how it goes with the pageouts.
Klaus T
Like so many others I've been struggling with Aperture performing worse in Lion than it did in Snow Leopard. Anyway, I searched around and I found a tip that seems to have made a huge difference: Use Aperture (and other memory heavy apps) in 32-bit mode.
From what I've read this is mostly an issue for people that have 4GB of RAM or less (I've got 4GB in my 2009 iMac). Lion uses memory in a different way than Snow Leopard did, and although it will work with as little as 2GB, it is favoring systems with lots of memory.
You can actually check whether this tip will improve your experience before changing anything. To get an accurate result your system must have been running for a while, with your usual applications open - your typical working environment.
- Open Activity Monitor.
- Click the "System Memory" tab in the bottom of the window.
- Check the value of "Page outs".
If your Page Outs aren't zero bytes or something close (mine were 8GB) you could probably benefit from switching your memory hogging applications to 32-bit mode.
How to do it? Easy.
- Find the app in your Applications folder.
- Select it and hit ⌘+I
- In the info window that pops up, click the checkbox that says "open in 32-bit mode".
- Reboot.
After the system has been running for a while, check your page outs again. Mine dropped to zero and everything is running a lot smoother.
Hope this helps some of you guys.
Morten
Morten Scheel
This could be a Lion bug?
1. Assign A3 to a desktop using the new Lion option to do so (right-click on app icon in dock; select Options/ Assign To/ This Desktop).
2. Now go to full-screen by pressing F on the keyboard.
If you are using split view, and say have the HUD up too (docked to the left in my case), A3 seems to try to put each of the three components (HUD, Viewer & Split View) on different desktops!
3. Go back to the Dock are reset A3 to no specific desktop, and normal behaviour is restored.
Anyone else see this? I'm using an iMac.
Steve
Steve Jackson
Hello,
In regards to colour shifts people and myself are experiencing, here is what I have figured out. I'm no computer expert, but what I have noticed is that Aperture is no longer supporting the color profile Adobe RGB. Every photo I have taken pre-lion with the color profile Adobe RGB has a color shift. Any shot with the color profile sRGB is ok, no color shift.
I also noticed that any images I have imported post-lion with the color profile Adobe RGB, is labeled "unknown" in the metadata color profile info. The color profile sRGB and RAW images have no issues.
I have no idea if there is a solution. Through forums I've read, it appears that Apple and Adobe may not get along with one another and as a result, the consumer has to pay the price. Does anyone have a solution?
chris gibisch
The "can't move to trash" issue is because it's an external hard drive that the master is on. This is causing problems in FCPX as well, and I'm sure other apps that move files to the trash for you. I don't have a solution, or know if there even is one, but it's definitely an issue.
-Joseph @ApertureExpert
Joseph Linaschke
I can't delete referenced files now that I upgraded to Lion. Anyone else run into this? Found a solution?
error message
Cannot Move Files to System Trash
Some referenced master files cannot be moved to the System Trash, and will remain in their current locations:
• You don't have access to the System Trash on the master files' volume
Other master files will be moved to the System Trash as specified.
Erik Colonese
This ("aperture is running slow") seems to be a problem shared by many others. The apple support community has several threads on this. Here's two examples:
https://discussions.apple.com/message/15886153#15886153
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3191239?start=0&tstart=0
Some seem successful in correcting the situation, others have to jump through hoops.
Many have suggested that you report these directly to apple and give them feedback (http://www.apple.com/feedback/aperture.html).
I for one will wait a little wile longer before going the Lion route and see if any new updates come along for either Lion and/or Aperture. With iCloud on the horizon, I do not know what if any impact it will have on Aperture.
Florian Cortese
@George Faella: have you tried rebuilding the aperture database?
Every system update almost always utilises more RAM in the system memory. If you haven't already done so it might be an idea to max out your RAM?
Chris Hoch
Aperture 3 is running at a snails pace ever since the upgrade. Any sort of adjustments take forever. Anyone hear of any fixes for this???
George Faella
Hello,
I just upgraded to Lion and I have an issue about the color on my pictures.
I don't touch anything on my Aperture Library, I don't touch the pictures.
When I open a JPEG picture take with a 5DMII, after the few seconds of treatment, the color become fade. This occurs only on JPEG, not on RAW and also this occurs only with JPEG take with 5DMII. No problem with the RAW take with this camera.
I have JPEG take with 7D and 60D in my library and there is no problem.
For these pictures the color is the same than under SL.
I saw this discussion on Apple Forum but without solution.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3193301?start=0&tstart=0
Duga Duga
Robert, what you're describing sounds more like your Preview and Thumbnail file had both been deleted, and Aperture was regenerating. What you see initially is the JPG preview that was made by the camera, which is nearly always different than what Aperture creates when it decodes the RAW file.
I can't explain why it would be regenerating, but you likely see the exact same thing happening on import. I would suggest setting your camera to a "neutral" color setting so that what you see on the camera LCD is more in line with what you'll get from the native file. Anything else is the camera altering the JPG preview. Of course if you're shooting RAW+JPEG and you want to see what the camera comes up with, then alter those settings all you like.
-Joseph @ApertureExpert
Joseph Linaschke
Hi! Now here is a big one!
I installed Lion the other day, and now after going through some of my images in aperture, I noticed that the previews first pop up looking great as always, but after the full image has loaded (takes a second or two on my computer), the image colors die a bit.
I narrowed this phenomena down to images shot in Adobe RGB. If I open the original image in Photoshop it looks right (from the finder). If I open the same image in PS from whithin Aperture, the colors die. Its almost as if Aperture doesn't recognize the Adobe RGB profile, and just throws in the usual sRGB. Doing this manually in photoshop produces the same result.
Has anyone else noticed this?
Its kind of a big deal to me anyway.
/Robert
Robert Hagström
When editing the list of presets, you can no longer move a Preset Group to somewhere you want on the list. The only way to arrange groups now is to move a group to the bottom of the list. Probably a bug. If others confirm this, I will file a bug report.
This was working as expected before Lion.
Argun Tekant
After upgrading to Lion, Aperture seemed to work fine ... until I discovered that libraries housed on my external drives didn't have full functionality. This problem is being reported sporadically now in other forums. When deleting files from the external libraries, I would get an error message, saying I did not have permission to access the System Trash. In effect, I could not permanently delete images files from within Aperture unless the Aperture library was on my internal drive.
Reverting to Snow Leopard, everything works fine. When I did another install of Lion on top of this clean OS, the same problems occurred with my external libraries.
Note: Changing permissions, repairing permissions, checking the ignore ownership box, etc -- none of those measures rectified the problem.
Artie Orche
Hi Guys,
I like using the launchpad side of Lion but I hate seeing all the in built apple apps taking up space.
if you are like me then there is this great app that you can decide what appears in launch pad:
http://chaosspace.de/dev/launchpad-control-hide-apps-from-launchpad/
well worth checking out and keeping your launchpad tidy ;)
Chris Hoch
While Aperture seems to be running well with Lion, I have noticed one function that seems inordinately slow. When I export a project as a library and then import it into another library, both directions are slower than I would expect. I am doing this all from my iMac.
Has anyone else had this experience.
Dudley Warner
Dudley Warner
Aperture is running great on Lion for me so far. Did a clean install of Lion on my iMac and clean reinstall of Aperture 3. Installed all updates to OS and Aperture before I used it. Opened my library on external drive and I'm good to go. I couldn't bring over my RAW presets but I created new ones pretty easily. *Update* Aperture has crashed once or disappeared, as I don't have the open app dots on the doc so maybe Aperture disappeared for a sec. I didn't get a prompt from Lion telling me the app had crashed.
Joshua Garrett
I have noticed my system seems to "search" for a wireless connection more often and slower when I open my MBP from sleep mode with Aperture running. I have had to re-connect to my wifi several times since upgrading to Lion. I have not changed any hardware, so it seems to be Lion related.
Daniel Buergi
If you go to the NIK website, they mention if you have your suite or whichever app already loaded that there is no problem but that there have been some problems with some of their products working with Lion if you install them AFTER the Lion upgrade. Why this should be makes no sense to a non-geek like me They are working on fixes and will do a rolling upgrade (?one product at a time-they mentioned Silver Fox 2 was going to be first) and let every registered customer know by email. I was going to eventually get the complete suite, but may wait a few weeks or get one now and load it then get Lion. I for one am still not in a complete hurry to get Lion. I'd like to get to a retail store and test drive it first. Problem is there the nearest Apple store is 6 hours away!
Florian Cortese
Since i have Lion installed, Aperture 3 appears in ALL Desktops. The option "Assign to" is not in list of options (right-click on Dock). When switching the desktop, A3 is there also (what i want is a Desktop per Application: Aperture / Firefox&Mail / Finder).
There a another way to train the system to do what i want?